 Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | Hi, Apensa. If you don’t have later binges, don’t worry about it! Whatever works for you. |
 apensa 12 years ago | Ossie, You said something in that post to Olive that got my attention. You said not to be too active before a morning intake of protien. I am finally walking on the treadmill because that is my first stop right after getting out of bed……well, my second stop….LOL. Once I get into the kitchen and pick up my paper and a cup of coffee, getting dressed to go to the gym or even walking back up stairs to walk on the treadmill is probably not going to happen. |
| Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | Hi, OliveOyl. Night binging is often caused by unbalanced eating earlier in the day, especially in the morning. It is important to get a good source of protein first thing, and don’t be too active before.
There is also an element of “sundowning,” when a lack of natural light causes the body to need carbohydrates to soothe it.
And of course, the end of the day is the classic time for unwinding, fatigue, and boredom. It is recommended to find an activity that is as entertaining, soothing, and relaxing as eating, that is compelling enough to distract you. |
 OliveOyl 12 years ago | I eat my protein snacks and I only use organis extra virgin cold-pressed olive oil. Seem to be doing everything right until after dinner. In the intro there was some chemical or hormone mentioned. Don’t know what it is or how to counteract it. Seaborngirl, you are very brave to keep getting back up when you fall. |
| OliveOyl 12 years ago | I had the problem of night binging long before the prednisone. What causes that? I will eat everything that isn’t nailed down. Wrong foods at dinner? |
| Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | Hi, CHIA. Prednisone is know to increase appetite and blood sugar, and to cause deterioration of muscle and bone. The dietary recommendations are therefore to have a low glycemic diet that is rich in protein and calcium – this program is designed to be structured that way.
Yes, steroids are for inflammation, and when injected, they are even more potent, as are the side effects. It is most probably what you get for your lumbar and bad knew. |
| Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | Hi, OliveOyl. The late-evening binging is a big part of steroid therapy, an precisely one of the targets of this program. The fact that you will always be on steroids points to the need to pay attention to protein and calcium, as well as to the antioxidant-rich foods you say you already like. Good fats like flaxseed and olive are also very, very important here. After a while of eating good protein-rich breakfasts and having regular meals and snacks throughout the day, the evening cravings will subside. Try also to think of something that relaxes you as much as eating, or that is as much fun, and make it a point to do that every evening. Distract yourself until it becomes second-nature not to binge. |
 CHIA 12 years ago | OLIVE: I see that you eat a small portion of of protein (meat). Maybe that’s your problem of not feeling full enough and you want to gorge yourself. Also, sometimes when I drink protein meals, etc, my body doesn’t get enough of the “chewing” that it needs and I just need to eat some real food to chew on. That may sound strange, but it works. It sounds like your last meal of the day may be some of the problem of wanting more. Ask OSSIE about the amount of Protein you need for your night meal to keep you from feeling hungry. ALSO, the “right” kind of protein. You may not be getting the correct amount or right kinds of FATS either. That can make a big difference. I think you can do this with a little guidance. It also sounds like you do have a sense of humor. Let’s hear that more often 🙂 Have a healthy day – one day at a time and keep posting your concerns and questions. We are here!!! If you can tell OSSIE your weight and height, she can tell you how many proteins, calcium and fats you should have in a day. I do wish you the best results – take it slow and watch it happen 🙂 |
| CHIA 12 years ago | OSSIE: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS SENTENCE?: “A final note about prednisone: this program is low in carbs and high in protein and calcium, which is the recommendation for recovering from steroid treatment.” If a person has been on Prednisone, what exactly does this plan do? Does that include steroid injections for inflamation in parts of our bodies? This is what I get for my lumbar and bad knee, (bone-on-bone). |
| OliveOyl 12 years ago | We eat healthy. I just stuff myself between dinner and when I fall asleep. Seems I can’t get enough food then. Sorry. All the negativity comes from the extreme pain I’m in and depression. Almost did myself in last night it was so bad. If I could stop gorging myself at night I would be fine. I have helped my husband lose 30 pounds by substituting foods. He actually thought he had cancer because he was losing weight and couldn’t figure out why! LOL I only eat organic and drink a smoothy of apple, blueberries, kale and swiss chard with a small portion of lean protein at meals. I will always be on steroids, so there won’t be “recovery” from it. |
| Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | OliveOyl: regarding the challenge of your husband’s eating habits, that is the usual case for many, many people embarking on a journey to get healthy. Small (almost imperceptible) changes along the way ultimately add up and become second nature. Patience is key, the same as it is with your grandchildren. When you go through the Menu Planner, try to check off foods that he likes (even if he won’t do it with you, you probably know what suits him), and just make them a little better than they would be otherwise – remember, you don’t have to be perfect, just a little better each time. A little less oil in the frying pan here, a smaller portion of junk food there, a growing percentage of whole grain carbs mixed in with the regular, etc. Take advantage of healthy foods that we take for granted – for example, red spaghetti sauce and ketchup are particularly good for men.
In the meantime, there are exercises you can do for yourself, that won’t bother trouble spots. These include water aerobics and low-impact calisthenics. Again, start slow and work your way up. Take advantage of TV time, etc. Our support team will get in touch with you.
A final note about predisone: this program is low in carbs and high in protein and calcium, which is the recommendation for recovering from steroid treatment. |
| Ossie-Sharon 12 years ago | Hi, OliveOyl. We’re happy to help in whatever way we can. Weight often doesn’t happen just because of food, so the food needs to be the comforting part. A lasting effect means it will be slower that extreme diets, but again, it will be lasting.
PS: I have forwarded your query regarding the BMI function to tech support, and someone will get back to you soon.
Any other nutritional concerns and challenges – please do post here. We’re with you all the way!
In the meantime, |
| apensa 12 years ago | Duhhh….Sorry about that. Seaborn, I know you made that post. Don’t know why I said Chia. I guess I was just blinded by your beauty. Whew….Did I get out of that one OK? Wait a minute. that won’t work. what about the rest of you?……..You are all beautiful!!!! I better quit while I’m still able to quit. Olive…..you have to start somewhere. I believe Seaborne is correct though. Maybe you need something different than what you can find here. I don’t want to sound unkind but it sounds like you need a lot more support from your family and medical professional. |
| OliveOyl 12 years ago | I thought there would be a moderator or support person-not just us. That’s what I meant. |
| CHIA 12 years ago | OliveOyl: If you taught Nutrition, you probably realize that dieting is taking one step at a time. Otherwise we would all get depressed if we expected to lose the weight that took years to put on, in a short time. Also, if we lose it too quickly, it comes back on easily. Then it is depressing. This is a great, healthy diet plan. I really wish you would stay with us and try it for a while. You can always quit when you are sure it’s not for you. You mentioned that all the people on this plan have problems — yes we do – “overweight problems”. If we didn’t we wouldn’t be here. You don’t expect people who don’t need to be on a diet plan to be here, do you? It’s like going to church. All the people there are sinners, or we wouldn’t be there. That doesn’t make us all bad. We’re there to learn about Christ and how to live to become like Him. As far as cooking for your husband, I have to also, and probably most of the women here do the same. I cook his meal first (food he likes) and then I make mine and sit down and eat with him. Mine doesn’t take as long as his does. Just because I need to lose weight doesn’t mean I’ll make him eat what I eat unless he wants to. He didn’t make me gain weight. I ate wrong and now I want to become healthy again so hopefully I can live longer. I am 71 yrs old and have lots of pains and have steroid injections to help, but may need a couple of different surgeries yet this year — Knee replacement & my back for spinal stenosis. I’m trying to lose weight so when I do have the surgeries, I can move around better while healing. Yes, we all have our own health problems to deal with, but we are concerned for everyone else here too. It’s all part of life. Giving up is giving in to our own weakness. Then you will feel worse. Don’t let weakness control your life. Be stubborn and be strong. That too works by taking one step at a time. I hope this helps in some positive way. |
